This is a quick demo of a longevity combination tig, stick, plasma cutter unit.
Previously, there was a video posted here of one irate and disgruntled customer who took out his frustrations on a chinese made welding machine with a sledgehammer.
I mean he beat the living pi$$ out of it.
The company was trying hard to satisfy him and they must have been successful in getting him to remove the video.
Well good for them.
If they made it right, they deserve to have the negative video removed. And if they refused, they deserved for the world to see.
That video was much more entertaining than this one but it sure wasn’t helping the welding machine company much.
The one good thing that came from people seeing a guy beat the pi$$ out of a Chinese made welder is that is got a lot of response from both sides of the fence.
Some readers insisted all chinese made welders were junk, but some were more open minded.
The comments at the bottom of the page are the responses we got.
One response I found particularly interesting was from a guy who said he really did his homework on Chinese made welders and settled on a brand called Riland.
You can jump straight to the post here...
Basically what he says is that he would love to own all Millers or Lincoln but simply could not afford it.
Being able to expand his line of welding equipment by purchasing welders at one third the cost of name brand units made his welding business more capable.
Political arguments aside, its hard to argue with a guy who is just trying to make a living.
A 160 amp AC/DC tig welder combination plasma cutter/combination stick welder, all for about 7-800 bucks?
I'll be honest, I have been tempted to try out one of these cheap Chinese tig welders. I am very curious about how they weld, but I am just not willing to gamble 800 bucks to find out.
I am kind of skeptical.
I think that's the hook really. Everyone secretly wonders and even hopes that these welders might weld almost as good as a Miller or Lincoln for about one fourth the price.
And by the way...Does anyone remember the YUGO?
It was advertised as "no frills" and it cost a whole bunch less than any of the other makes. The car looked fine on the showroom floor. People hoped that it would be like the VW beetle..just cheap basic transportation,..but dependable.
and then in about 2 years the only time the word YUGO was mentioned was in the punchline of a joke....
But what about Hyundai? they weren't taken very seriously at first. But now, they are supposed to have good safety and quality ratings. Could it be that Chinese tig welders are continuously improving?...you know Kaizen!!
Seriously, We have all seen these Chinese Tig Welders on Ebay and other places. They are the subject of lots of chatter on the welding forums and 4 wheel drive enthusiast forums. The Chatter usually ends up in a "Buy American" debate and the debate never really resolves.
We as Americans have come to expect really Cheap goods AND a good standard of living.
I am pretty sure having both is not sustainable.
In the meantime, it would be great if we could get past all the buy American banter. I mean seriously, things have drifted so far that to suggest we buy only American made products is almost being hypocritical.
Even the staunchest union man with a "buy American" bumper sticker on his Chevy truck owns plenty of Chinese products.
So here is what I really want to know...Any of you reading this have any experience with Chinese made tig welders?
Click below to see contributions from other visitors to this page...
buy american





buy american or go live in china
i buy anything i can with red white and blue on it on it i know where i live and work
you pay more for quality ...
Big tool user





I spent three years looking for a TIG/stick welder and finally settled on a Chinese unit from Riland usa. I like to repair my own equipment and they were ...
Regarding "Buy American"





America's economy was founded on Capitalism and its ability to amass wealth quickly. The paradox with the "buy American" movement is that it the concept ...
Mobilty Equipment Design





Longevity-Inc 200DX TIG Runner
I have been researching Chinese AC/DC TIG welders for about a year, I finally decided on Longevity-Inc 200DX AC/DC Pulse ...
Many welders are gambles - even big name ones





I had a Miller Econotig that died due to circuit board problems. It seems that the Econotig had that problem. In about six years I had maybe 50 hours on ...
Buying Chinese or an Imported TIG





I must say that I had my reservations in regards to buying a tig welder manufactured in China. I did my homework, several hours spent researching forums,...
Everlast took a while to get it right but....





What I'm about to outline is my experience with Everlast over the course of the last year or so. I'll also give my take on the performance of the machine ...
GYS Chinese?





I own a GYS arc/tig inverter welder, which until recently I thought was French but read somewhere on a forum that they're actually Chinese then sold as ...
up in the air





Well I am the manager of a metal shop in a major art school.
I run Miller and Lincoln welders and plasma cutters. These machines are put through their ...
remain competitive or die





In my opinion, "Buy American" eventually translates to "Screw America". Why - because every time you buy something that is anything other than the best ...
lotos plasma





well first of jody forgive my grammer i wanna be a welder not a school teacher, anywho me and my old man (im curently 17) bout this cheap little lotos ...
120 amp arc welder, pretty good





I receive a HF 120amp arc welder for Christmas and it works and performs flawlessly i used it to weld some old lawnmower blades together and it did it ...
Miller, Lincoln are you kidding?





I am in the market for a TIG/Stick machine and considering an Everlast Powertig 250 EX. I am finding it very difficult if not choking, to part with $3000....
Longevity 160PI





I hear what you're saying about buying American and have very strong feelings about creating strong, local economies that can produce the things they need ...
I just go my j man welding ticket





i think they are junk i bought one of those chinese units off ebay the tig/plasma/stick combo and got it home hooked everything up and it would hardly ...
sorry for buying plasma arc





I PURCHASED AN EVERLAST 50P PLASMA, WHEN I RECEIVED IT IT SEEMED TO WORK GREAT, CUT ONLY LIGHT GAUGE MATERIAL, TRIED IT ON 1/2 MATERIAL AND IT QUIT WORKING,...
Miller , Lincoln China welders





What's the beef? Both Miller and Lincoln are now china made welders, or at least some, or so I hear. So if you want a good american made welder it needs ...
USA vs Chinese





I don't own a Chinese TIG welder, but feel compelled to comment. I was on a forum asking about repowering a lawn mower with a Honda engine. One participant ...
I weld with a Harbor Freight Tig/Arc chinese equipment





My experience with chinese equipment hasnt been that great. I picked up a Tig from HF to weld thin stainless metal. The Machine is really an arc welding ...
Dewalt625





I am a firm believer that the global economy is a reality. It is very clear that the Swiss have mastered the watch. The Japanese have mastered car, Honda ...
Garth Seabrook, run a machining & Fabrication business using chinese welders.





I bought a Riland AC/DC Tig 200A tig unit four years ago.
I've run countless bottles through it, I use it on average 2 - 3hrs a week minimum in my shop....
Bobble





Hi,
Here in the UK, we have the same problem.
UK/European/US welding machines are expensive.
Chinese are cheap, and have a bad rep. We ...
chinese stuff is both good and bad





Just like everything made anywhere in the world, some of its good and some isn't worth jack. I saw a chinese guy who owns a metal supply company cut steel ...
The Chinese don't have to pay for Labor Union retirements





As our unions drag us deeper and deeper into mediocrity, the Chinese are able to produce a welder that can compete with the US stuff (at least for the ...
Chinese Welders





First off let me say i,m not a professional welder by any means.I owned a Heavyhaul Trucking business for 35 years.This brought me to get into the welding ...
GUY FED UP WITH "BUY MILLER OR LINCOLN"





Just a quick note to the guys who say "BUY MILLER OR LINCOLN"
If you havent used a chinese unit how can you say dont buy it or give advise on it ?
You ...
There are plenty of American made welders that are superior in every way... by Mr.Michael Stimac





I feel as an American you should be ashamed for wanting to buy a Chinese product just to save a buck.
There are plenty of American made welders that ...
Riland Tig Welder...Superb Results & Satisfaction...





I posted my use of several Chinese welding units I own & use daily with superb results & satisfaction.
Again, homework of those selling these imports ...
chinese made welding machines





When you take off the cover, you really have to wonder whey there is such a price difference between Millers Dyansty ,Lincolns invertec, and Chinese made ...
No Homework No Reason To Complain...





The issue with many, such as this fellow, is the simple fact they didn't take the time to do some homework & research.
Not all Chinese products are ...
Kiwi engineer





I bought a very similar welder (Chinese 160 amp Tig, Arc, Plasma) made by a company called rilon or rillon. Works perfectly, tig welds up to 10mm (3/8)...
Internal photos of a Everlast Power Master 205 Welder





Internal photos of a Everlast Power Master 205 Welder
Found this link to several pictures of the inside of a Everlast Power Master 205 Welder. It would ...
I bought a Chinese TIG/stick/plasma for $400





I am not a certified welder but I have been MIG, stick and gas welding for thirty plus years off and on. I now make custom motorcycles and exhaust for ...
madmax




I have found that most of these opinions are based on a minority of bad experiences that happen to people we know or know of.
I have found that the ...
Do you own one like this ?




Does any one out there own or have used a tig welder like this it is a BUTTER 160 AC/DC TIG.
This is my first time with a tig welder.
If like me you ...
Chinese Welder a Star!




I boght a Chiry Chinese Inverter Tig Welder AC/DC 200 Amp Pulse 3 years ago. http://www.chiry.com.cn/productInformation.asp?id=1257#show It compares favorably ...
Hobbyist/work on boats



Just bought a Everlast 225 LX AC/DC TIG.
Just set it up tonite and hopefully do some practice tomorrow. I have limited experience and probably not the ...
Longevity=crap


I bought one of the longevity weld/plasma/arc welders a couple years ago with hope, but what I got was a machine that failed exactly a week later after ...
Many Welding products available today.
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willjvdh@gmail.com
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think about it
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cheap ain't good and good ain't cheap .
Electronic/Software Engineer
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Tony
not worth the price!
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I think its good
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I buy American when I can but there is nothing wrong with good competition. It makes products better and cheaper. I work real hard for my money and don'...
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Buy American!
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I had an old Hobart ac buzz box that my Dad got from a saw mill, they had thrown it out in the scrap pile, the welder was probably 20 years old then, he ...
cheap Chinese welders
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i have been wondering about these cheap welders for a short while now. i am planning to make stainless steel intake manifolds (to replace the plastic ones)...
Love My Chinese Tig
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After many bag experiences with my Cebora MIG i looked into TIG welding. I'd heard it was like gas welding only with electricity, and being fairly good ...
own the 160p
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positive and negative.
My tig hi freq doesnt work so I have to scratch start it. Some cheap ground clamp, could have a Higher quality wire in the ground ...
Harbor freight is junk anyway
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Normally i have only bought US built machines.. And usually OLD machines at that.. for whatever reason i like the big dinosaur machines. I weld for a living,...
Chinese tig
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I have just bought a chinese tig arc welder 200amp DC unit & have tried it out & seems to work well it has a wp 17 air cooled torch as standard so no problems ...
culture differences
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Personally, I've never used anything other than a lincoln (tig), miller (mig and tig) and and old century buzz box. I have fairly limited overall welding ...
American and chinese owner
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I own metal art business and have a miller and lincoln welder. I needed to buy a new plasma cutter because the American company ran me around and around ...
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I love my Everlast Super200P. Its got plasma, stick, TIG AC/DC, and pulsing features all in one unit.
I am not a pro... I do metal working projects ...
Nathan Fritz
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Not about the Chinese Welder, but thought you might like to know that I recently purchased a Miller 252 and picked up a spool of Harris .023 wire at the ...
Springer
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My exposure to chinese welding products is this:
Order a mutiprocess welder, waited nearly 2 months for it to arrive. Plasma cutting was amazing, tig ...
Large transformer based welders are dinosoaurs
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The reason I bought Chinese is because they are modern and reasonably priced, not costly reproductions of outdated designs.
case in point: Would you ...
Jeremy Warren
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Hey Jody. As always thanks for the site.
Had to answer this as I'm probably in a pretty good position to know some facts! As mentioned before I live ...
I am very interest
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I am jewelry designer like to use different metal, the latest is aluminum, I like to learn how to solder aluminum rings so I make different shapes with ...
Hobbyist/work on boats
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I've had the Everlast 225 LX AC/DC tig for a week. Never did any aluminum TIGing before and not that much TIGing in general. Trial and error and I'm laying ...
tig from china
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I have a Chinese plasma cutter purchased form ebay and is very good >now I purchased a tig welding machine from alibaba... another chinese product
and ...
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I bought a welder from harbor freight. it is an inverter tig and stick.
I have been using it for about 4 months now and it is stil going strong.
It ...
Chinese welders
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I do not own one however, freddytk421 on Youtube has a FEW good chinese welder vids posted on Youtube.
Try www.youtube/freddytk421
Take Care,
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my miller maxstar is a star!
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My Miller Maxstar 140 is in its 9th year now.
the only problem i have ever had was the fan @ 2years and that was replaced under warranty.
It has ...
wasted 200 bucks on chinese welder
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bought one from harbor freight,bad bad bad
mn welder
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my take on it is i've bought some stuff that was a little shaky like a victor style type torch...
*does it work? yes
*does it do what its suposed ...
New Review Videos from IKE the customer who beat up the machine in frustration
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Hi Everyone,
We worked out the issues with Ike and are happy to finally make sure he is satisfied. Please review some of the videos he has recently ...
Mr Work
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There are several products made for several customers.
May be I will buy some chinese product for hobby or small services. But if I´m honestly thinking ...
Longevity 200P owner
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I bought a Longevity 200 P combo unit around a year and 8 months ago.
I'm a newbie to Tig, but I've got a Century mig and an old Lincoln Buzz Box AC ...
Gadget
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I have a Longevity IGBT LS200PI and have been very pleased with the performance of the unit. I'm not a professional welder and as a hobby welder I couldn'...
Body Paint fab etc
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I bought a Harbor-F TIG, to try out( the new big one(, 30 day return, figured if it was crap is was going back, spent a few hours with it, never TIG welded ...
Not buying the video
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Doesn't exactly make sense, the guy buys a Chinese welder and then decides "If you want to keep America working buy American"? I would think someone with ...
Not buying the video
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Doesn't exactly make sense, the guy buys a Chinese welder and then decides "If you want to keep America working buy American?". I would think someone with ...
Dynasty is too expensive
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Not surprizing that china is selling lots of tig welders.
The miller dynasty 200dx is about 3 grand just for the machine. There aint no way that thing ...
I assume he doesnt like it......!
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One would assume by his method of adjusting his welder he is slightly displeased with the quality maybe??
Ha ha 0 great video though - made me laugh ...
Evan Cowart
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I have no idea on the welder, but I do have a chinese tractor and when it is working it does the job, but the quality is real poor and it breaks often....
Works for me.
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I have a 200 amp DC tig plasma cutter from the same company as Ike's welder. So far I have had two minor problems. The power switch and fan needed to ...
Hassan
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well I bought one of these about four months ago but the model is super200p 200Amp AC/DC Pulse 3in1 Tig welder Plasma CUTTER and ARC welding.
its working ...
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This video is useless..it doesn't explain a thing other than some pissed off guy smashing the welder
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i've been welding with lincoln and miller welders for the last year at work, before that it was hobart, and i have even worked at a place that used the ...
chinese tig welder smashed
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If I thought it would work ok, I would buy one.
The Miller Dynasty 200dx is overpriced. It has gone up about 1000 dollars since it came out. The arc ...