Lincoln electric's version

by pete
(Cleveland Ohio)

I had a chance to operate one of these contraptions at a state level welding competition for high school students in which I was a judge. It was sponsored by lincoln and the reps brought out one of thier new virtual reality welders to show off at the booth.

What a marvel of technology but what a false reality at the same time. It was different in the fact that you had plastic weld coupons ( fillets, grooves and pipe) and you could choose between Solid wire mig, gas shield flux core and stick welding with 5p or low hi. The one realistic thing was the stinger would actually mimic burning and retract the rod as you welded. Other than that it was nothing like the real thing. It was very difficult and cumbersome. Couldnt make a weld that scored higher than 80% in a flat fillet haha. Then I tried 6" pipe in 6g with a 5p root and what a joke.

According to the machine I burned holes all through the the damn thing. Looked like swiss cheese. In real life I do this for a living! No fire raining down, no sticking rods. I do not know how they can market that as a training tool but people were sure interested in buying them. I do believe they are selling at 40-50 thousand bucks. Yes thats for real... And schools have been ordering them up. Just goes to show how much money schools have been hoarding and ripping people off that they can afford multiple machines at this price. Buts thats a different topic for another day.

It might be usefull as far as introducing someone to welding who has never seen one before. But to train someone to weld on one of these is like playing a war game on Xbox and sending them into a war zone in Iraq with a gun. Not gonna work to well.

Happy Welding
Pete
Boilermakers 744

------------------------------------------------

Pete,

well said....good post...i agree 100 %

jody

Comments for
Lincoln electric's version

Average Rating starstarstarstarstar

Click here to add your own comments

Jun 07, 2010
Rating
starstarstarstarstar
I gotta get in on this one & I totally agree!!!
by: Chris Johnson

I read this & I said the same thing!! Virtual welding is a great idea, don't get me wrong but I'm sorry there is no way I weld like that in real life! I am a student at Southwestern Illinois College & I also work in the welding lab, I am constantly welding. I weld with any & every process every week. I'm a jack of all but but a master of none! When it came to using that machine I was ticked because I know that my welds looking nothing like that. I had undercut everywhere, spatter from beginning to end, the bead looked like a drunk'n worm crawling down the piece of metal.
Personal I think they need to put 1 and only 1 machine into a intro to welding class & thats it. I talked to a friend of mine that has all the inside scoop of every welding company known to man & he told me that the price of that thing is so stinking high because of all the research & development they put into it. He also said that about the only people that are buying it is the military. A few extremely pricey schools are buying it but not many because of it's hard to justify that amount! In the end, it's cool but it pissed me off, hahahaha!

Jun 07, 2010
Rating
starstarstarstarstar
I gotta get in on this one & I totally agree!!!
by: Chris Johnson

I read this & I said the same thing!! Virtual welding is a great idea, don't get me wrong but I'm sorry there is no way I weld like that in real life! I am a student at Southwestern Illinois College & I also work in the welding lab, I am constantly welding. I weld with any & every process every week. I'm a jack of all but but a master of none! When it came to using that machine I was ticked because I know that my welds looking nothing like that. I had undercut everywhere, spatter from beginning to end, the bead looked like a drunk'n worm crawling down the piece of metal.
Personal I think they need to put 1 and only 1 machine into a intro to welding class & thats it. I talked to a friend of mine that has all the inside scoop of every welding company known to man & he told me that the price of that thing is so stinking high because of all the research & development they put into it. He also said that about the only people that are buying it is the military. A few extremely pricey schools are buying it but not many because of it's hard to justify that amount! In the end, it's cool but it pissed me off, hahahaha!

Click here to add your own comments

Return to virtual welding training.