vertical up butt joint

Hi there im new to the web site and found it helpful. just wondering if u have any tips for vertical up butt joint and t joint? im in school now and i hit a wall with this position and looking for another opinion. im just not getting full penetration and find it harder to control with push. any ideas?

if you are welding with short circuit mig...
make sure your contact tip is at least flush with the nozzle...try to maintain a short stickout

if you are using flux core, a little longer stickout is needed.

either way, try to maintain a 90 degree torch angle or a very slight push...not much

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