Aluminum Welder Demo using Miller Diversion and Everlast powertig 185

"Affordable Aluminum Welder? - Diversion 180 and Powertig 185 ... "

Last weeks video demonstrated several different welds done by the Miller Diversion 180 and also an Everlast powertig 185 micro.

Both machines performed well for steel and aluminum up to .125" but both stumbled when I tried to weld a 1/4" plate to a 1 1/2" solid piece of aluminum round stock.

No real surprise. Neither machine is rated for anything that thick but I tried anyway just to push the limits.

It seemed to take forever to get a puddle with both machines using straight argon with the pedal floor boarded.

So what is it that turned both of these machines into aluminum welder beasts?

How is it I was able to weld a piece of 1 1/2" thick round stock to a 1/2" thick plate?

You probably guessed already. Adding helium is the kicker.

I hooked up a cylinder of helium with a western Y fitting with valves and set the flowmeters to what appeared to be around a 50/50 mix. I set each flowmeter to about 10cfh.

If you are curious about where to get a Y fitting like this,( Its called a western # 411 Y) you can find it here at weldfabulous.com

I have not dealt with them, but they seem to have a pretty decent online store for welding supplies.

Accuracy of percentage of helium is not very important for most applications. In fact, anywhere from 50-80 percent seems to work just fine. The more helium , the hotter the arc. 80 percent seems to be the limit before arc starting and stability was a problem.

OK, so where would this be needed?

Both these machines are limited . One is 180 amps , the other is 185 amps. If you have a 185 amp tig welder, you will encounter certain aluminum jobs that seem too thick. I have a Miller Dynasty 200dx 200 amp tig welder it I occasionally run into aluminum jobs where I need more amperage.

But I am usually able to get over the hump by using the helium.

When it takes more than 3 seconds to puddle aluminum, you probably really have enough amperage. Thats a rule of thumb.

With the helium hooked up, I puddled 1 1/2" thick aluminum in about 3 seconds with 185 amps.

without helium, it took like 30 seconds at max amperage to get a puddle going.

7/24/11...This just in...Thanks Phil

here it is...

" I have the Dynasty 200DX and have added helium to weld ¼” and thicker aluminum. I ordered my parts through my local welding store and they matched prices on the web for me. Below is a picture of the brass Y fitting and check valves that were used.

What I did was unscrew the B size 5/8-18unf fitting from the Y fitting and place the check valves between those two fittings. See the picture below. Your welcome to add this information to your site.

Part numbers are listed below for the Western fittings that were used.

Check Valve ¼ NPTF, Part # WESCV-6 $22.00 each (need two) http://www.westernenterprises.com/enterprises

Y Fitting, Part # WES0401 $16.00 http://www.westernenterprises.com/enterprises/PDFS/wi17.pdf

http://www.westernenterprises.com/enterprises/PDFS/wi17.pdf

Go to www.arc-zone.com and they can make up custom length inert gas hose. The length below worked well with my upright cart.

2) 16” 5/8-18 R.H. Female, Vinyl Plastic hose. $20.92 each

1) 30” 5/8-18 R.H. male to female, Vinyl Plastic hose. $20.92

Check out the link "

http://joewelder.com/2008/03/25/rubber-verses-vinyl-plastic-hoses-which-is-better/

That brings me to a practical example where adding helium helps.

Now for the left turn...

A fella with the initials FH emailed for advice on welding an aluminum automotive rim.

A big part like that is a pretty big heat sink so a 185 amp machine might be stretched to its limits without helium.

You can see all the tools laid out for use.

copper backing, ss wire brush, clamps, Tig Finger , gloves, small water cooled tig torch, and 4043 filler rod.

A bolt had gone thru the rim and the fella was asking for some tips on the weld repair and whether it was a safe repair.

Aluminum wheels are often made from aluminum castings that are alloyed with silicon in order to allow for good fluidity and solidification in the casting process.

4043 aluminum filler rod is a silicon alloyed filler metal and is often the go-to rod for welding automotive rims.5356 is rated stronger but is not as good a match.

Without going into a long metallurgical explanation on how heat affects aluminum, the short of it is... excessive heat can really soften aluminum.

So that is something to consider on repairs like this.

Like a lot of weld repairs, the weld area will have residual stresses, and the weld and welded area will have somewhat different properties than the rest of the metal.

That hold true for pretty much every weld made on anything.

Does this repair make for a safe wheel?

I really dont know. It is not my call to make.

I do know this...In aerospace engine component overhaul, large areas of aluminum castings are commonly weld repaired using techniques like this.

So anyway , here is gist of the email thread...

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Jody, I am going to attempt a weld repair on a cast aluminum automotive rim that had a bolt go through it and after cleaning up I will be filling roughly a 2" hole.

Do I need to pre heat? and are there any other special considerations I should take into account?

Or do you even believe it is a safe repair?

Thank you for your time, your opinion would be greatly valued and appreciated.

Cheers, F.H.

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F.H.,

4043 is probably the best choice for filler.that's a big hole. but i have seen it done before.

if you have a piece of copper to use for backing , that will help hold the argon and will help with less grinding afterwards.

a low preheat of only about 150f will help things go better.you could even set it on the grill for a few minutes before welding.

whether its safe or not probably depends on the location of the hole more than anything..

i am not really able to make that call so you might have to go with your gut on that one.

best of luck ,

jody

Thank you for your input and speedy reply, my repair turned out fantastic. I did have some 4043 kicking around the shop and the copper backing works amazing. I have been watching your videos for quite some time now and could never have achieved such results have you not gone out of your way to put up your site...

Oh and the tig finger is an indispensable tool, use it every day on the job. Thanks again.

Aluminum parts like this heat up quickly and its hard to find a place to rest your hand. With a Tig Finger , problem solved.

even without a preheat, the first bead all the way round the edges of the hole should preheat the part enough for the rest of the beads to flow easily.

good looking weld repair

click the image below to check out the Tig Finger