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What is the difference between ER70S-2 and ER70S-6 Tig wire?

Type ER70S-2 is the most popular Tig rod for welding carbon and low alloy steels...It is a triple deoxidized steel welding wire used for both tig and mig welding applications.

Type ER70S-6 is a very popular mig welding wire that can also be purchased in cut lengths and used for Tig welding.

The differences are very subtle so that is what we are going to dive into in this video

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chemical composition of ER70S-2

AWS Chemical Composition Requirements...
C = 0.07 max    Ni = 0.15 max    Cu = 0.50 max
Mn = 0.90 – 1.40    Cr = 0.15 max    Ti = 0.05 – 0.15
Si = 0.40 – 0.70    Mo = 0.15 max    Zr = 0.02 – 0.12
P = 0.025 max    V = 0.03 max    Al = 0.05 – 0.15
S = 0.035 max

ER70S-6 Tig wire

Type ER70S-6 is a wire contains higher levels of Deoxidizers Manganese and Silicon (Mn & Si) compared to other carbon steel wires. The higher level of silicon can make this filler metal sightly more fluid than others and seems to float oxides to the seen in the photo below

AWS Chemical Composition Requirements...

C = 0.06 – 0.15    Ni = 0.15 max
Mn = 1.40 – 1.85    Cr = 0.15 max
Si = 0.80 – 1.15    Mo = 0.15 max
P = 0.025 max    V = 0.03 max
S = 0.035 max    Cu = 0.50 max

so while er70s-6 does contain higher levels of silicon and manganese, er70s-2 contains other deoxidizers like titanium, zirconium, and aluminum

So which one is better?

For this video, I welded on hot rolled mill scale plates at 150 amps using both ER70S-2 and ER70S-6 filler rods.

Some of the plates were cleaned pretty well, and some were not….and some were barely cleaned at all.
these were A36 structural steel plates that I was tack welding backing straps on for future videos.

( thank you to Triangle Engineering for donating the plates)

After welding with both ER70S2 and ER70S6 in several different scenarios, I have to say the differences between the two rods are very subtle.

ER70S-2 and ER70S-6
observations ...

  • for some of the joints I welded for this video, there was very little detectable difference in the way the puddle flowed, or in the final weld appearance.
  • when metal was properly cleaned, and when I was not penetrating thru exposing the puddle to oxides, there was very little difference in the way these two rods welded.
  • the area where i did see a distinct difference was when I was penetrating thru the back side without a purge.
  • when welding .048” (1.2mm) thick cold rolled steel, without argon on the back side, there was a noticeable difference in the final appearance of the back side…the penetration side of the weld.
  • When welding over hot rolled steel that had not been cleaned, the ER70S-2 actually had a cleaner final weld appearance….which is something I did not expect.
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