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Welding 4130 Steel Tubing - Reverse Trike Project "RAPTOR"

This Reverse Trike has a Tig Welding 4130 Steel frame

see videos on tig welding 4130 chromoly

This Reverse Trike Welding Project is called the RAPTOR.

A reverse trike that uses a Kawasaki ZRX1100 for the drive train.

The maker of the video states he got the idea from the Indycycle – another reverse trike that uses suspension similar to an Indy Car.

It took the guy about a year to put this thing together and the video does a pretty good job of showing the build sequence in about 2 minutes.

The frame is built from TIG welded 1-1/2” chromoly tubing .120” wall thickness.

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I recently published an article on Tips for Tig Welding 4130 chromoly tubing . It definitely applies to projects like this reverse trike…

Welding 4130 Steel Tubing - Tig Welding Chromoly Up in Here

4130 Chromoly tubing is used for all kinds of applications, but 2 of the main ones are for airplanes and for racing just about anything from motorcycles, to mountain bikes, to go-carts.

AISI 4130 tubing is strong. It's real strong. So the reason it is so popular among race car and airplane builders can use thinner tubing and that translates into speed and less weight.

Welding 4130 steel tubing is not that hard. There seems to be some mystique around it but it actually welds better than plain carbon steel.

So then whats all the fuss about? Well there is one thing. If it cools too quickly, 4130 chromoly tubing will be hard and brittle in the heat affected zone of the weld.

Keeping the cooling rate slow enough…Thats the main thing to be concerned about.

So how do you make sure the cooling rate is slow enough ?

• Make sure the ambient temperature (room air) is above 60 degrees F. if at all possible.

• Use a small propane torch to preheat weld area to about 100-150 F. 300 degrees F if room air is below 60 degrees.

• Weld a little bit slower than you would for plain carbon steel.

• Dont use 4130 tig welding rods. Use E70S2.

• Never speed cool anything.

Some frequently asked questions about tig welding 4130 steel tubing are:

Q. Do I need to heat treat the weld when I am done welding?

A. No, the term heat treat is often misused. What is usually meant when it comes to welding chromoly is "stress relief". A stress relief can be done with an oxyfuel torch and a 900 degree F temp stick or a digital pyrometer. But it is usually unnecessary unless the thickness exceeds one eighth inch.

Q. Do I need to back purge my Chromoly welds with argon gas?

A. It always helps, but think about how many oxy acetylene welds there are out there doing fine that were done with no purge.

Q. What about using 308 stainless for welding chromoly?

A. there is a bunch of discussion on Baja Racing forums on this subject. I can tell you that lots of welders are using er308 tig welding rod with success, but for airplanes, E70S2 is the way to go. One thing that might not occur to you that you should consider is that if you ever needed to weld repair something and all you had was a gas welding torch, the E70s2 would be easily welded over with an oxyfuel rig. The 308 stainless welds? Not so much.

Jody Collier's web articles on subjects like Welding 4130 chromoly are full of Down and Dirty welding tips. 


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